Need to be able to remove single words that appear in silly places

# 8 years ago
wookeywarn Member	Most of my SVG downloads are to enable me to make them look perfect before sending to a client. This includes resizing to fit a specific product (a mug or placemat for example where the standard sizes or clipart I might import do not correctly represent the actual size when downloaded as PNG) and also, to remove erroneous words that look stupid, e.g a single word that appears in a flower petal Unicode icon or in the middle of a letter e, p or O. When people are paying for these prints they expect them to be removed and I could not send them with a list of things I will remove 'later'. After I have removed them and sent them a proof they inevitably make changes which require me to come back to Tagul and repeat the process again - sometimes many, many times for the same print. I cannot charge extra for this - it's just the process that is required because Tagul does not allow me to do these things. If I have to use a credit each time I go through this process then with your new pricing structure I have already indicated that this makes it un-viable for very small hobbyists like me and people will just do it themselves for free. If Tagul allowed me to remove single words from a design where they don't belong (and I mean remove, not just move and have it replaced by something else!) and allowed me to manually change the size of a rectangle to x cm then at least I wouldn't need to download my many proofs in vector format and use what are now very expensive credits.

# 8 years ago

wookeywarn

Most of my SVG downloads are to enable me to make them look perfect before sending to a client. This includes resizing to fit a specific product (a mug or placemat for example where the standard sizes or clipart I might import do not correctly represent the actual size when downloaded as PNG) and also, to remove erroneous words that look stupid, e.g a single word that appears in a flower petal Unicode icon or in the middle of a letter e, p or O. When people are paying for these prints they expect them to be removed and I could not send them with a list of things I will remove 'later'. After I have removed them and sent them a proof they inevitably make changes which require me to come back to Tagul and repeat the process again - sometimes many, many times for the same print. I cannot charge extra for this - it's just the process that is required because Tagul does not allow me to do these things.

If I have to use a credit each time I go through this process then with your new pricing structure I have already indicated that this makes it un-viable for very small hobbyists like me and people will just do it themselves for free.

If Tagul allowed me to remove single words from a design where they don't belong (and I mean remove, not just move and have it replaced by something else!) and allowed me to manually change the size of a rectangle to x cm then at least I wouldn't need to download my many proofs in vector format and use what are now very expensive credits.

# 8 years ago
Alex Key Master	1) Why can't you send 1MP PNG to your client to make sure he/she is satisfied? 1MP PNG download is free. 2) You can remove single words or move existing words in SVG by edit SVG file in Inkscape without downloading again from Tagul 3) Don't understand what you mean saying "change the size of a rectangle to x cm". SVG doesn't have cm or inch dimensions as it is scalable and can be printed on any physical dimensions.

# 8 years ago

Alex

Key Master

1) Why can't you send 1MP PNG to your client to make sure he/she is satisfied? 1MP PNG download is free.
2) You can remove single words or move existing words in SVG by edit SVG file in Inkscape without downloading again from Tagul
3) Don't understand what you mean saying "change the size of a rectangle to x cm". SVG doesn't have cm or inch dimensions as it is scalable and can be printed on any physical dimensions.

# 8 years ago
wookeywarn Member	Sorry if am not being clear, I will try and clarify - 1) I cannot send a 1mp PNG to a client which has a list of things I 'will' change later such as a list of words that appear in stupid places that I will remove. This may seem acceptable but it really isn't - people expect a higher quality of service than that! I also incorporate clouds into wider designs and add custom backgrounds. A proof has to be a file that closely resembles the final design or its not a proof. 2) I use inkscape for exactly the purpose you describe BEFORE I send it (still in low res actually) to my client, or I then put it into photoshop to add a background or whatever I'm doing. If the client then comes back (actually they almost always do) to say they don't like a word where it is or can I make this bigger or this smaller or turn it around then I of course come back to Tagul to change the same design and then start the process again. Sometimes they decide they want to remove or add a word completely. Are you suggesting I do all of that manually in inkscape from now on to avoid more than one download - or are you saying inkscape does it all for me and I've missed it? 3) if I have a placemat at 23x19cm or a mug area of 8x20cm a standard 'rectangle' does not represent the design when I send it to a client. To try and mitigate that, I therefore created some different clipart rectangles which are more representable of the sizes but still do not come out as they will appear when resized. Not being funny but if I resize a rectangle as it comes out of tagul to 8x20cm I'm never going to sell it! It is not properly scaled in proportion and all squashed. Finally it is wholly incorrect to assume that each download equals a juicy £10+ profit (I wish!) the reality is that 80% of my downloaded designs in SVG never result in any income whatsoever - I spend many, many hours playing with different things, trying to make something new and unique. The cloud market in the UK is very saturated and looking on ebay yesterday most were on sale for £2.99 - I cannot match that even before the price hike! Some things such as fridge magnets and single coasters sell for a few pounds each because frankly you cannot charge more than that - even if the amount of work is the same - the client doesn't care! For those and many other reasons I think the new download cap will kill off much of your small business trade here but as you seem set on this model, it would at least help if Tagul could do some of the things upfront that require us to repeat download in the first place? Cheers Steph

# 8 years ago

wookeywarn

Member

Sorry if am not being clear, I will try and clarify -

1) I cannot send a 1mp PNG to a client which has a list of things I 'will' change later such as a list of words that appear in stupid places that I will remove. This may seem acceptable but it really isn't - people expect a higher quality of service than that! I also incorporate clouds into wider designs and add custom backgrounds. A proof has to be a file that closely resembles the final design or its not a proof.
2) I use inkscape for exactly the purpose you describe BEFORE I send it (still in low res actually) to my client, or I then put it into photoshop to add a background or whatever I'm doing. If the client then comes back (actually they almost always do) to say they don't like a word where it is or can I make this bigger or this smaller or turn it around then I of course come back to Tagul to change the same design and then start the process again. Sometimes they decide they want to remove or add a word completely. Are you suggesting I do all of that manually in inkscape from now on to avoid more than one download - or are you saying inkscape does it all for me and I've missed it?
3) if I have a placemat at 23x19cm or a mug area of 8x20cm a standard 'rectangle' does not represent the design when I send it to a client. To try and mitigate that, I therefore created some different clipart rectangles which are more representable of the sizes but still do not come out as they will appear when resized. Not being funny but if I resize a rectangle as it comes out of tagul to 8x20cm I'm never going to sell it! It is not properly scaled in proportion and all squashed.

Finally it is wholly incorrect to assume that each download equals a juicy £10+ profit (I wish!) the reality is that 80% of my downloaded designs in SVG never result in any income whatsoever - I spend many, many hours playing with different things, trying to make something new and unique. The cloud market in the UK is very saturated and looking on ebay yesterday most were on sale for £2.99 - I cannot match that even before the price hike! Some things such as fridge magnets and single coasters sell for a few pounds each because frankly you cannot charge more than that - even if the amount of work is the same - the client doesn't care!

For those and many other reasons I think the new download cap will kill off much of your small business trade here but as you seem set on this model, it would at least help if Tagul could do some of the things upfront that require us to repeat download in the first place?

Cheers
Steph

# 8 years ago
Alex Key Master	Steph, I cannot send a 1mp PNG to a client which has a list of things I 'will' change later such as a list of words that appear in stupid places that I will remove. Still don't get it. Both 1MP PNG and SVG have a list of things you will change later. What happens if you send your client 1MP PNG instead of SVG? This may seem acceptable but it really isn't - people expect a higher quality of service than that! 1MP PNG is quite a good quality. Some things such as fridge magnets and single coasters sell for a few pounds each because frankly you cannot charge more than that 1MP PNG is more than enough for fridge magnets and single coasters. But you still need to download HQ images for all images you sell. I mean you can experiment with 1MP PNG for free but download HQ image for sale. Are you suggesting I do all of that manually in inkscape from now on to avoid more than one download - or are you saying inkscape does it all for me and I've missed it? No. You can remove the words in Inkscape but not add or change. Tagul could do some of the things upfront that require us to repeat download in the first place I appreciate if you list the things we can do and we will see what can be done.

# 8 years ago

Alex

Key Master

Steph,

I cannot send a 1mp PNG to a client which has a list of things I 'will' change later such as a list of words that appear in stupid places that I will remove.

Still don't get it. Both 1MP PNG and SVG have a list of things you will change later. What happens if you send your client 1MP PNG instead of SVG?

This may seem acceptable but it really isn't - people expect a higher quality of service than that!

1MP PNG is quite a good quality.

Some things such as fridge magnets and single coasters sell for a few pounds each because frankly you cannot charge more than that

1MP PNG is more than enough for fridge magnets and single coasters. But you still need to download HQ images for all images you sell. I mean you can experiment with 1MP PNG for free but download HQ image for sale.

Are you suggesting I do all of that manually in inkscape from now on to avoid more than one download - or are you saying inkscape does it all for me and I've missed it?

No. You can remove the words in Inkscape but not add or change.

Tagul could do some of the things upfront that require us to repeat download in the first place

I appreciate if you list the things we can do and we will see what can be done.

Need to be able to remove single words that appear in silly places

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